Scotland beat France 27-23 . . . and Wales are Six Nations Champions!
Cymru am byth!
Scotland beat France 27-23 . . . and Wales are Six Nations Champions!
Cymru am byth!
vd Merwe scoring two tries
Talk of this French side being the next big thing is a pipe dream
Excellent championship, plenty of excitement and drama right to the end. France will be kicking themselves for not kicking that ball out of play at the end when the championship was gone but the game was won.
The current Scotland team is the best they have ever fielded, at least since I have watched rugby.
France won’t win the next WC - they have some good players but not across the board but they always blow hot and cold and are never consistent
The next WC is 2 years off, so they might get lucky still...their luck/bad- luck at WC's are epic.
Scotty has been good for a few seasons now, but they lost badly against Japan at the RWC...ho w good was that Japanese side really? They beat a very good Irish team too....yet South Africa dispatched them easily in the quarters, as we did in the warm-up match.
That Jap side where bloody brilliant in the WC they played beautiful rugby
The Boks just physically beat them into submission. First half was here have the ball and come at us and take a beating.
By the second half all resolve and belief had been squeezed out of them
Master tactician our Rassie
Yeah but that first try really wasn’t a try, was it ?
France had the game won a few times....and made critical mistakes and unbelievably dumb decisions. French fans really have my sympathies.
Duhan scored two tries but enabled two Scottish tries....a mixed bag. I doubt he will get the Lions starting role.
"Duhan scored two tries but enabled two Scottish tries...."
So according to Moffie Duhan van der Merwe scored 2 of Scotland's tries and enabled 2 others.
Well, quite how he assisted Dave Cherry's try is anyone's guess but Scotland only scored 3 tries in total so you have to wonder what game the drunken old fool was watching!
Duhan has made the 6N team of the tournament with the most tries scored and in the top three for metres gained and defenders beaten
He will walk the Lions starting side especially against a very physical Bok side
I was wrong about Duhan vd Merwe, he did not only beat more defenders than any other player in the 6N he beat BOD’s 2000 record of 30 defenders beating in the competition, clocking up 31
Yeah Moz, most tries scored and a record number of defenders beaten and you say he won’t make the Lions starting 15 because of his one over commitment in defence leading to the French try
Wow Moz you and your rugby takes take the cake seriously
Time will tell....he also got hopelessly gassed by the young Welshman.
Saffy is very funny, no context to numbers. No evaluation. I trust Moz more because he picks up on details. Saffy is the same person who said that Morne's 80% tackle efficiency wasn't good enough, nor his superior try and attacking stats to the pretenders and other records making him the most successful and highly decorated 10 in Bok history. All emotional bluster, and that's why he is almost always wrong on everything. If &Dugan has the support of Herr Omlett and Saffy, this may be a turning point in his career
Should we not call them the Scotboks given Ollie Kebble did a brilliant cameo, made some strong carries in the french 22 to suck in defenders and probably help created the space for Duhan to create the 2nd try.
Dam shame we never capped him for the boks. Would love to have a big speedy winger to compliment our current wings.
Probably wrong shade
Big certainly....speedy, not so sure. Zamm it and Penaud were the best wings on view on the 6 Nations.
Your take on Zammit skinning him is nonsense but it’s a given that Zammit is faster than Duhan
I did not know how fast Duhan was until I saw that sprint in for the try he scored mid way in the 6N.
I was impressed he could move that quickly for a 110kg plus brute
More than enough pace for a wing, but his game is more about power
Best wings in the 6N in order were Duhan, Zammit then Watson
I was enthusiastic about Duhan based on some highlights I saw. But I lost elevation as the 6 Nations tournament went on. Not particularly good under the high ball, slow thinking....apt to go missing if not fed the ball. Certainly he is going to take some stopping 5 metres out, but he is no Lomu.
Then there’s defense....which frankly is not that good. It was a poor miss for the Frog try. Most Team of the Six Nations reporters prefer Watson.
Would I pick him ahead of Mapimpi....probably not.
I’d pick him ahead of Mapimpi but not ahead of Nkosi and Kolbe
One miss because of an over commit does not define his defence
Disagree about him under the high ball I don’t recall a single poor effort
You don’t score the most tries in the 6N playing for a 4th placed side being inactive
I completely disagree with your take, he was often the go to running an angle off a set piece and often found himself looking for work on his other wings side
Sorry Moz you are speaking crap - your take on Duhan is about as accurate as your take on PSDT
You don’t break the all time 6N defenders beaten and score the most tries playing for Scotland being as average as you make him out to be
But no surprise here Moz we all know you watch a completely different game to all of us
The game you watch is not called rugby
You simply can’t argue agains Duhan’s stats this 6N, one of which is record breaking. Not bad breaking BOD’s defenders beaten record
Nkosi is just a promise....Mapimpi has at least accomplished something.
The ranking among the experts you so admire appears to be Watson, May, Adams, Liam Williams, Wuhan.
Dave you won’t be satisfied until we have props on the wing, you have learned nothing from Cheslin Kolbe.
Saffex, you must remember, stats are only important to Moffie when they support a player he likes. If the stats favour a Duhan van der Merwe or a Pieter-Steph du Toit then they're a waste of time.
Moffie should rather stick to his weight group when it comes to rugby. Omlett and Baboon-ou are about his level.
Oh shame Rooipeepie has crawled out of his bottle.
No that is not the rankings of the experts - the experts have selected Duhan on the wing in the team of the 6N, which means he is ranked 1st or 2nd amongst the 6N wings
Nkosi is far better than Mapimpi in every regard
The only reason Nkosi found himself behind Mapimpi is because he only made it back from injury in time for the WC.
Rooi - Moz watches a different game to us
He will now attack Duhan forever more
He was a big fan a few months ago
Apparently scoring the most tries in the 6N playing for lowly Scotland or beating BOD’s defenders beaten record is not good enough for Moz
Mapimpi is the best and most complete SA wing, and especially the most intelligent. Nkosi was good in 2019, not great. Defence and passivity are problems.
British Lions first team:
15 Stuart Hogg (Scotland); 14 Anthony Watson (England), 13 Garry Ringrose (Ireland), 12 Manu Tuilagi (England), 11 Josh Adams (Wales); 10 Finn Russell (Scotland), 9 Tomos Williams; 1 Cian Healy (Ireland), 2 Ronan Kelleher (Ireland), 3 Kyle Sinckler (England), 4 Maro Itoje (England), 5 Alun Wyn Jones (Wales, captain)
Our Lions team: 15 Stuart Hogg, 14 Liam Williams, 13 Jonathan Davies, 12 Robbie Henshaw, 11 Louis Rees-Zammit, 10 Jonathan Sexton, 9 Conor Murray, 8 Taulupe Faletau, 7 Justin Tipuric, 6 Tadhg Beirne, 5 Alun Wyn Jones (c), 4 Maro Itoje, 3 Tadhg Furlong, 2 Ken Owens, 1 Rory Sutherland
Replacements: 16 Jamie George, 17 Joe Marler, 18 Kyle Sinckler, 19 James Ryan, 20 Josh Navidi, 21 Gareth Davies, 22 Dan Biggar, 23 Henry Slade
This is another area of strength for the British and Irish Lions. There are many contenders not least the exciting emergence of Louis Rees-Zammit. This is Stuart Hogg’s time after two previous Lions tours. He is a consistent shining beacon of industry and attacking intent for Scotland. Hogg would work well with the twinkle-toed Anthony Watson, who has been criminally underused by England in recent years. The other wing position is very difficult to call. There are the likes of Jonny May, Josh Adams, Duhan van der Merwe, James Lowe and Keith Earls.
I hesitate to say too much about individual Scots and their aspirations to tour with the Lions but I hope we should get perhaps five or six players in the wider squad including and . I wouldn’t select him for his poor defence but may go given his raw speed and power. and can all keep their fingers crossed. Ritchie played his best game this season for Scotland against France but only after a relatively quiet Six Nations. Still only 24, he would benefit more than most by touring with the Lions.’
‘poor defence’....spot on Jim.....Cheslin would make a monkey out of the big lump.
Well, I have been fan of Duhan for some time. I have to agree with Dave that you simply don't become the top try scorer. Especially when you have to work your way over the try line rather than just jogging across with no one in-front of you.
I’m just pulling Dave’s leg...Duhan is a powerful wing and will be a menace to defend if he’s in the Lions squad. But like other big wings, Lomu for example, he isn’t that good once turned, nor for a big chap is he authoritative under the high ball. And I don’t think his tackling is reliable.
So it’s a mixed bag. There will be a lot of pressure on Gatland to choose among Liam Williams, Adams, Watson and May....it’s not clear Wuhan will be picked.
Yeah, not really seen him being tested with balls in behind him or in the air. That has always been a good ploy to get the big wingers to turn around and tire them out.
The only player that I thought was amazing under the high ball was Isreal Falou
That’s not the sides I have seen and it makes no sense that on form Josh Adams gets a starting spot - good wing but had a very quiet 6N
Folau was money under the high ball. Habana was flawless too.
Aplon and Cheslin is absolutely fearless under the high balls too. I actually thought his diminutive hight would count against Cheslin when competing under the high ball...boy was I wrong!
Aplon was much stronger in contact. Took on Muliaina, Nonu and Rocokoco, knocking them back with ease for the Boks. Their plan to dominate him physically failed spectacularly. Something about the coloureds, tend to be much stronger than the black backs despite often weighing in the 77-85kg bracket.
Most resilient physique I've seen...hard as nails, string as steel......Kaapse manne is duidelik lekke!
His mom drives a Ford. She must be tough too.
Aplon was kak - Kolbe is a beast thanks to now being built like a brick shithouse
Far far more physical than non physical Aplon
You cannot leave Louis Rees-Zammit out...he is a star in the making. Duhan too .I think the 6 nations (minus 2 being France and Italy) has a great pool of choice. It's lovely to see Scots players that imo oust Englands individually...an unheard of situation but also Wales and Ireland. England
players seem to got stale in conformity. They seem to have problems of too much conformity except for a few standouts..
I think the great Lions team under Willie John Mc Bride (ireland) had a good dose of Welsh players also Gordon Brown and "Mighty Mouse" McLaughlin (Scotland) if my memory serves me right.
I surmise this Lions team will test the Boks to the utmost.
!974 Lions team comprised of the following...but what a side
"Aplon was kak - Kolbe is a beast thanks to now being built like a brick shithouse"
"Pocket Rocket " Aplon and Kolbe are of the same dynamite...they box well above their weight...coloured players produce incredible players...nimble, tough and courageous.
Nope never rated him, he was just too small
I much preferred Kirchner
That's your prerogative...but I never rated Kirchner after 2009/2010...he was really good over those 2 seasons ...and really poor thereafter.
Yeah Kirchner had his moments
2 kgs difference Dave:, Kolbe 80kg, Aplon 78 kg.??
Woolly Boolly Kirchner had his moments but not imho opinion did not have the same rugby "nous".
Please explain why...I respect your opinion.
Well as usual we are way off course...Well done Scotland. I can understand why Rooi , being an avid Welsh fan is overjoyed.
Which I echo...Scotland is producing the goods...it's been a long hard struggle for the tough brave and determined Scots...I have a lot of respect for these tough, practical and resilient people..I hope it continues which I suspect will...Scot's rugby is relatively minor but their heart is big..
On France, I don't read much into this...the French team is damn good and young and will learn from mistakes...the youngsters a few years back were brilliant...I don't think this side will take on a fly by night style...the coming years experience will mould this side into a world beater. Just too much talent and pain from previous mistakes. I certainly would not write France off...remember NZ 2011 WC only one point and this side is a few notches higher.
France are at their best when they have a powerful backrow. That's the key.
I wouldn't write France off just yet. They seem to have a decent pack and quality backs. However, they still need to become more consistent.
Look where the boks were under Coetzee, Rassie also had a poor start winning only 50/50 of his matches, but they were close ones and then also that dodgy test against wales in the US.
Jump forward a year, Rassie beating Aus and Arg with the B team. Draw with the all blacks, championship trophy and then a wobble against the ABs before clinching the world cup against and very good England team that destroyed the all blacks the week before.
So 2 years is long in terms of Rugby. But I'm quite excited about the next world cup. Especially since it is on my door step
Tend to agree with you...the next WC won't be a collective opinion...a few surprises ahead
Just watched the highlights. That red card for the fend, farcical. Tackle lower if you don't want an elbow in your windpipe.