Magnificent by Etzebeth

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Nov 20, 2021, 19:26

Probably the greatest game played by a lock I have ever seen. How many lineout steals did he make….and the pace of the man on that break.

Once again he makes eminently clear he is the best lock on the planet. Probably the best lock we have ever had.

If WR want to try to cool the controversy a belated addition of Etzebeth to the Player of the Year list would be perfect.

Nov 20, 2021, 19:29

Eben was great, as was Kolisi and DdA...and a few others...Bokke made a few tactical errors. We could have won easily...ah well, the Poms were good on the day.

Nov 20, 2021, 19:30

You could also mention the outstanding Allende.

Lots of points left on the field so it was an unfortunate loss.

Nov 20, 2021, 19:40

Allende gifted the game to England with his missed tackling assignment. Centre play 101.

Nov 20, 2021, 19:45

Ja, ja, we know...

Nov 20, 2021, 19:45

And Kolisi should have smashed the Pom try scorer sideways instead of draping an arm over him in the Pom second try…and the in the air interference which ended the test was incredibly stupid. As was the pass he threw behind Kriel with an open line.

What matches do you guys watch?

Nov 20, 2021, 19:48

Ja, ja, we know...

Nov 20, 2021, 19:49

Pollard should have made his kicks...

Nov 20, 2021, 20:09

Only saw last 4 mins but I presume the Poms deserved to win with a 3-1 try count. Plenty of off the ball stuff in that 4 mins!!

Nov 20, 2021, 20:21

Kolisi did lots of good stuff. However, the pass to Kreil was poor because he did not run inwards to create more space on the touchline with a draw and pass for Kriel to run into.
Although a specialist winger could have timed the run better, even with minimal space next to the touchline. 

Nov 20, 2021, 20:21

Look at the penalty count and the cards...there was a reason why we scored less tries...Poms were real spoilers...

Nov 20, 2021, 20:32

This is very disappointing bok performance. Lack of discipline and yet again lot of points left on the field! Etzebeth played very well and stand out player in the bok much this rassie hoo ha had a influence, was seen today with off the ball stuff and lack of focus from our players. Yet again a game we should have won...but congrats to England they played well.

Nov 20, 2021, 20:36

"Yet again a game we should have won...but congrats to England they played well."

Indeed...we'll be back.:D

Nov 20, 2021, 23:06

"Allende gifted the game to England with his missed tackling assignment. Centre play 101."

Nope, not why we was  because of the penalty we conceded...

Nov 21, 2021, 00:01

Yes Etzebeth played very well. 

All in all I’m quite happy with the result :D

Nov 21, 2021, 00:04

Our front row that started today did not lay the platform we needed. This allowed England into the game. Also our backline was not taking there opportunities that was there...second half Boks had dominance but failed taking the points. Why is kriel still starting? Surely there is better options?Willie is also not up to standard. Frans, as brave as he his, he is past his prime and there is better talent that can be getting there shot.....England, a very well coached side, showed this today with great success. Then our defence is showing some distress and not at the standard it’s supposed to be, as proven by the 3 to 1 trie score. R & N has got hard work infront of them.

Nov 21, 2021, 00:32

The momentum was all with the Boks at that stage, and we were just in the lead. Dud blew a basic tackling assignment which reversed the momentum. He also missed 4 of 9 tackle attempts.

Nov 21, 2021, 08:19


The fact was that the defense was always suspect because of the pace deficiency of Steyn - they have to cover for him as well.  Most of the deficiency as to that try was due to deficient defense by Steyn.       

The best tackling stats  in the Springbok side was by Etzebeth - followed by De Jager - the stats for the rest of the players were all sub-standard and those of  the loosies were very poor indeed.   To blame only one player for poor defense on the day is just stupid.      

Nov 21, 2021, 08:50

Eben played very well and that burst through was spectacular by where was the rest to help finish it, and this particular opportunity to crown it with a certain try. Rugby's a team game.

All this palaver over losing by 1 point would have been eliminated.

Well done England.

Nov 21, 2021, 09:59

Eben was brilliant and DA made Moz’s name mud yet again- he was brilliant-what a player our best 12 ever

Nov 21, 2021, 11:35


Mozart is quick to blame the last English try on De Allende - but eh obviously did not want to mention an earlier certain try where De Allende made a try-saving tackle. 

I wonder what cause the hatred of players that continued for many years  and still is.   Lets take some examples:-

You and I mentioned Pieter-Steph du Toit  in 2013 as a potential future Springbok and Mozart nearly had a fit  because he was praying for  having Matfield and Bakkies in the squad at all costs.   That caused a storm on the part of Mozart  - Bakkies  opted out soon because he realized  he became a liability for the team - Matfield stayed on and he was a liability for the team.   Since then his attacks on Du Toit persisted and instead of Matfield he went for support of Mostert 

I think I mentioned De Allende as a future prospect and he went ballistic.   When  that happened the same happened - nobody was better than Jean - at that stage true until  De Villiers  had the career-ending injury against Wales in 2014 - after which he should have stiopped playing anyway,    Somehow or other he then cottoned on to Esterhuizen and hen De Allende made according to them made what they make out to be a mistake -  which nobody else recognized it as one - we read about it  for years.   

It goes wider than rugby - Quinton de Kock is another player who had the audacity to replace Graeme Smith as  opening batsman  in ODFI's in 2013 and the attacks  on him have continued ever since.

Last year I mentioned  that i was impressed by the performances of  Andrey Rublev  as a tennis player - he won more trophies than any other player on the circuit.   This year his form took a dive  and I even went to far as to say i think he needs consultation with a sport psychologist.  On Friday Rublev lost against Ruud - who never beat him  before  and the  Mozart "WEH"  followed immediately despite the fact that I did not say anything about Rublev  before this tournament - but criticized him for his performances this year.

Mozart as you know is famous for virtually never mentioned any young player in any sport who look like having potential.   About a montha go he mentioned an 18 year-old  tennis player Nure as being potentially  a top class player.   I then mentioned that the real deal si Carlos Alcaraz  - a Spanish 18 year old player.    Problem is about 14 days   later the 34 year-old Andy Murray beat Alcaraz in a tournament and the WHHAHA of Mozart followed.   Three weeks later Murray came up against Alcaraz again and the 18 year-old gave him a tennis lesson.    Fact is Alcaraz started playing on ATP level this year and  none of  Federer, Nadal or Djokovic ast 18 years of age equaled  what Alcaraz achieved as 18 year olds what  Alcazar achieved.

The moral of the story is that if either you or I mentioned a player we regard as a future top player the vitriol  get immediately out on that player.       


Nov 21, 2021, 11:39

Yeah it’s pretty pathetic highlighting something that did not happen when the guy was simply brilliant on the day as was Kolisi

That’s what happens when the skill of a player and his performance on the day, in fact all tour discredits everything you have to say about the player who keeps making you look like a fool

Nov 21, 2021, 16:06

Dud Allende was responsible for the Pom try….and that was huge in the game,….try to be honest for a change.

Nov 21, 2021, 16:21

No he was not and I’m being honest about how brilliant he was on the day

I’m not stupid enough to define a player’s performance based on one perceived negative that actually does not exist

Nov 21, 2021, 16:37

The perceived negative that doesn’t exist….he didn’t blow his assignment by turning  inside and a try didn’t result from it? Just like he never blew the 2015 WC semi by letting Nonu run 30 metres  across our 22 and offloading for a try.

I guess you are entitled to your truth.

But the real truth is Dud is a slow thinker and has poor defensive instincts and that costs us in big games. 

Nov 21, 2021, 17:42

You are holding your pet hates to higher standard than what is normally expected of a player...remember how you castigated Jacque Fourie for years? For some players, nothing will ever be good enough...for others you'll always find an excuse. 

Nov 21, 2021, 17:44

We have seen many stories concocted by Mozart on De Allende and every one of those  are absed on false stories concocted by him,    I will analyze the one he mentioned  and see whether there were  any truth in what he wrote.   By the way was De Allende slow in thinking  when he made that try-saving tackle in the first half?

 The Nonu case running across field is another lie only Mozart spread and nobody else ever did.   What Mozart said De Allende should have done  was a physical impossibility and total BS. 

And then we had Mozart saying he is a slow thinker - while Pollard said he si the mostr inteeligent player he ever played with.  Now should we rate what Mozzart said is correc and what Pollard say is BS.   

Nov 21, 2021, 17:48

If you missed it during the game you really don’t see much. The Nonu failure is proven….he never tackled his opponent who offloaded for the winning try. Simples.

Nov 21, 2021, 19:29

We see straight through you Moz - DA had a blinder - we all know that

Nov 21, 2021, 19:56

Dave….Dud had one of his better games up until he lost the test….be guided by me, you will be better informed.

Nov 21, 2021, 19:56

"Willie le Roux: 6

Showed good bravery in claiming the kickoffs and high balls under immense pressure. Brought good width to the Bok attack a few times. But the longer the game went on, Le Roux started to make a few errors, and made way for Frans Steyn.


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Jesse Kriel: 6

Ran hard whenever he got the ball, which wasn’t often enough. Tackled well, and scrambled across in defence a few times and picked up the scraps to clean things up.

Lukhanyo Am: 7

The highlight of his game was the try-scoring pass in the tackle to Makazole Mapimpi. Kept the England defence busy on attack. Allowed England too much space with ball-in-hand in the first half.

Damian de Allende: 8

Made some powerful runs up the middle in the first half, sending would-be tacklers flying backwards. Solid as usual in defence, and pulled off a lovely back-handed offload to Siya Kolisi.

Makazole Mapimpi: 8

Continued his impressive try-scoring feats with his 20th touchdown in 25 Tests, walking over off a superb Am pass. Chased box-kicks and kickoffs with great hunger, and contested the breakdowns too.

Handré Pollard: 6

Slotted four penalties to keep the Boks in touch with England, but then missed two more shots at goal. Slipped a few times when kicking to touch, and generally didn’t stamp his authority on the match. Relied too much on Reinach to relieve pressure with the boot.

Cobus Reinach: 6

Had a few quick darts around the fringes early on. Tried to take the heat off Pollard with box-kicks from the base, but overdid it, and kicked it too far a few times. Needed to get more speed into the Bok attack instead of organising the forwards around him, and allowed England scrumhalf Ben Youngs to operate in too much space.

Duane Vermeulen: 9

South Africa's number 8 Duane Vermeulen prepares for a scrum during their Autumn International rugby union match against England at Twickenham Stadium in London on Saturday. Photo: Adrian Dennis/AFP

Colossal display from the Bok No 8 – not far off his Man-of-the-Match 2019 World Cup final performance. Commanding in the lineouts, got the maul going eventually, was a menace at the breakdown.

Kwagga Smith: 7

Held up over the tryline after a number of carries from the Boks. Typically busy around the fringes, picking up loose balls and tackling any Englishman that moved.

Siya Kolisi (captain): 7

Arguably his best Test of 2021 until losing a point for conceding an unfortunate yellow card with five minutes to go, where he was adjudged to have tackled Joe Marchant in the air, while he felt he was going for the ball. Was a threat in the wide channels again with ball-in-hand, and made a powerful charge to run over England flyhalf Marcus Smith in midfield.

Lood de Jager: 6

As the Bok lineout-caller, has to take some responsibility for the missed lineouts in the first half. Wasn’t as visible in general play as usual, but added his weight in the scrums and mauls.

Eben Etzebeth: 9

Yet another line-break in the second half makes you wonder if Etzebeth wasn’t a centre previously. Always physical, Etzebeth has taken his game to a new level this year with his contributions in the loose – willing ball-carrier, monster defender, and chasing kicks!

Trevor Nyakane: 6

Wasn’t able to get the initial scrum dominance as in previous Tests, but by the end of the first half, he was on top of opposite number Bevan Rodd. Got in the way of a Reinach pass to Pollard, but luckily the Boks scrambled well in their 22.

Bongi Mbonambi: 5

Missed his lineout jumpers a few times by throwing over the top, especially on attack. The Bok scrum and maul also couldn’t get going for most of the first half.

Ox Nché: 7

It took a while, but he eventually got the better of England tighthead Kyle Sinckler in the scrums. Was a lively presence in the tight-loose, and made a memorable hit on England No 1 Bevan Rodd.

Best Replacement

Malcolm Marx: 8

Lifted the Boks’ physical effort when he came on early in the second half with the rest of the ‘Bomb Squad’ front row. Accurate in the lineouts, got stuck in at the breakdowns and carried the ball smartly too.


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And that's basically for every match, with Am and a few others coming to the party too everynow and again..

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