Bok Selection for 2nd Test Vs AllBlacks

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Sep 01, 2024, 20:11

This is a 5/3 split, but I expect Rassie will go for a 6/2 split

1. Gerhard Steenkamp  (Impact Player = Ox Nche).
Steenkamp looks very powerful and it would good to see him get some more game time.
He could be a very effective ball carrier dominating collisions around the ruck. 
The Boks have not had a huge fast prop for some time. 

Having him as a starter, then bringing on Ox to destroy the opposition scrum in the 2nd half.

2. Bongi                      (Impact Player = Marx)
Bongi is a solid starter. Marx is still not in top form, and the lineouts were a bit shaky with him throwing.
The Argentinian home match test will be a good chance to blood a new hooker. 

3. Malherbe                 (Impact Player = Koch)
Some new blood is needed here. These players will not make the next world cup.
The Boks can be starting these players next year.

4, Eztebeth
Eztebeth can play off the bench against Argentina or even give him a rest to test new locks- but with injuries their is a lack of depth. 

5. Ruan Nortje               - Steph can move to 4 or 5 later in the game.
He was solid, and will be interesting to see if he can get better. Although likely a placeholder, given all the injuries. Lineouts looked good when Bongi was throwing. 

6. Delande                    (Impact Player = Kwagga)
He is a good rugby player, just not a backline player. His best skill is around the ruck when their is no space. Much more effective than Kolisi in the tight.
Kwagga will never be a starter, he is excellent off the bench when their is more space.

7. Pieter-Steph du Toit
He can cover number 4, and 5 lock- and probably 8th man as well.

8. Jasper                       (Impact Player = Elrigh Louw)
Louw can cover 7 and 8. 

9. Grant Williams            (Impact Player = ?)     
Time to put Reinach out to pasture

10. Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu
The first name announced on the team sheet. A new type of flyhalf for SA rugby.
While SA has had lots of good runners or kickers at 10 - rarely ever have the Boks had the complete package. More like a New Zealand flyhalf

12. AM                          (Impact Player = Pollard for 10/12)
Damien Willemse needs to play 12, like he does for Stormers when he returns from injury.
With Pollard on the bench, AM could shift to 13 and Pollard 12 

13. Kriel
Would be good to see how he combines outside of AM, instead of being crabbed by Delande.

14. Kolbe
He can play on either wing, and cover fullback

15. Fassi                        (Impact Player = Willie Leroux)
Willie Leroux should be on the bench, but only if it is a 5/3 split. 
Fassi is excellent under the high ball and a good finisher.
Willie Leroux as an impact player of the bench to create space for the outside backs
Fassi can also cover wing.


11. Moodie                 Kurt-Lee Arendse is injured
Moodie can also cover 15, and 13 if injuries.


Sep 02, 2024, 00:36

Joke

Sep 02, 2024, 00:41

Here goes

15. Fassi

14. Kolbe

13. Am

12. Esterhuizen

11. Moodie

10. Sacha

9. Williams

1. Oz

2. Marx

3. Malherbe

4. Etzebeth (c)

5. RG

6. Kwagga

7. PSDT

8. Wiese

16. Bongi 17. Steenkamp 18. Thomas du Toit 19. Ruben v Heerden 20. Elrigh Louw 21. Hendrikse 22. Pollard 23. David Kriel

Sep 02, 2024, 06:47

Oaks please!

Steenkamp, Bongi, Maherbe

Etzebeth and Nortje

Van Staden Wiese Du Toit (Capt)

Reinach (very good at Ellis Park) 

Sascha

Allende Kriel

Mpimpi, Kolbe Fassi. 

Bench

Ox Marx Koch

Kwagga, Louw Ben Jason Dixon. 

Pollard and Williams

I have no doubts about the starting  pack.

I have some doubts about the backline. Am, Moodie and Willie are very creative players. If the guys who played last week. are fit and firing perhaps best to stay with them. Perhaps Kriel needs a rest and ditto Kolbe? If so in comes Am and Moodie. 

In principle pick the very best match 23.  Experience etc can come against Argentina etc. Win this test and the Rugby Championship is won. 




Sep 02, 2024, 18:10

The chnaces are that witrhout Kolisi the captain would be  Du Toit = who is lkely tpo play he full game     If Etzebeth start he will bereplaced b minute 60 o so =If he is on te bench he may come up at minute 40 or so.   

My team would be the following:-

15    Fassi

14    Moodie

13    Kriel

12    De Allende

11    Kolbe

10    Feinberg-Mngomezulu 

9     Williams

8     Wiese

7     Du Toit  (c)

6                               *

5     Notje

4     Etsebeth

3     Malherbe

2     Mbonambi

1     Nche


16    Marx

17    Steenekamp 

18    Koch/Du Toit

19    Snyman

20    Dixon

21    Smith

22    Hendriks

23     Pollard


*    Widh they call up Hanekom to replace Kolisi


Sep 02, 2024, 18:21

FFS if you are going to put Dud Allende in his best position at open side flank, put Dud Toit where he always plays….right wing. The Dud Allende at flank idea is gathering steam. The poor oke is now so slow he can’t cover centers or wings in space. But he can still tractor and fetch.

Show him some videos of himself,  offloading back in 2015 when he was aping Sonny Bill quite well and put him on the flank. Release the Tractor and when he is tackled, offload. That might give us a ball carrier….and he certainly would be a huge list over Kolisi and Dud Toit as a fetcher.

Look at the things Savea does and ask yourself if that isn’t Dud’s highest calling.

Sep 02, 2024, 19:02

Combination of Shark and Dave,s team….centre pairing of AE and AM classic….Moodie wing oh yes but 14…with Kolbe 11..Steenekamp to start very good with Bongi as he is just a more stable starter atm….RG of the Bench with Nortje starting….find a place for Dixon of the bench together with Louw….Ruben and David Kriel is positive move to building depth…Kwagga 6 good …make Pieter Captain…rest good.

Sep 02, 2024, 20:37

Nortje had a fine game but, jislaaik, allemagtig, his shoulders are so slender ................. Mostert's a hulk in comparison.

Sep 02, 2024, 20:42

Ha ha Blob, good one :)

Sep 02, 2024, 20:57

Nortje is another Mostert we need to move on

He is a better player than Mostert though but needs to bulk up to 120kg

Sep 02, 2024, 21:01

" Mostert will be sidelined for six weeks, meaning he is in a race against time to be back for the second Test against New Zealand in Cape Town on September 7. " - is this maybe the reason why the team announcement has been postponed until Thursday ??

I would love to see Sous back, so he can finish his career in style. I know this will upset certain people, but I don’t care :)

Sep 02, 2024, 21:12

SA Rugby magazine on X: "Vodacom Bulls lock Ruan Nortje should ...1,200 × 1,200

Sep 02, 2024, 21:20

Nortje is n Taai Bliksem, net soos Mostert :)

Sep 02, 2024, 21:22

Mostert is useless

Sep 02, 2024, 21:39

https://www.netwerk24.com/huisgenoot/nuus/bok-franco-se-ouboet-verlam-ek-speel-nou-vir-hom-20180302


Franco Mostert960 × 720

Sep 02, 2024, 22:14

That is very sad about his brother, but also inspiring how he is fighting to walk again… saw a video of him on you tube where he is with biogenetic instructor. I wonder how he is doing today? Can’t really find any news on jp?

Sep 02, 2024, 23:29

NSIDER: Franco Mostert : Brenden Nel

It isn’t hard to miss Franco Mostert in a game.

He isn’t flashy. But there are few players worldwide that possess the work ethic and workrate that he does, who consistently produces exceptional performances, but also goes under the radar when it comes to accolades.

Much like Danie Rossouw, who was the backbone of the 2007 World Cup side and an unsung hero in a team full of them, Mostert has carved out a reputation for being a workhorse, a player teams can’t do without. Ask any coach who has coached him before and they will tell you, there are few players who come close.

But his story is often one that doesn’t see the limelight. Where several of his team-mates win man-of-the-match awards, get written up by local and foreign media and find their way into teams across the world, Mostert just carries on. He knows only one way, and that is to put his head down and grind.

TACKLE COUNT
A perfect example of this was against the British and Irish Lions. While his colleague Eben Etzebeth became a focus of the media, Mostert simply carried his weight and did his job. Not surprisingly to those who watch closely but by the end of the test series Mostert had racked up a massive 42 tackles in the tests, Etzebeth 26. To make it more impressive was that he didn’t play 80 minutes of every game in the series either.

But it is just another example of a player who had to overcome adversity, fight his way for every place in every team and took the long, hard road to the top.

It may surprise you that Mostert was never a Craven Week player, never excelled for the top schools and spent his time in Brits, having been born in Welkom. He actually doubted becoming a rugby player when he was younger, and had to choose in high school between golf and rugby.

His father Francois, played for Free State and his older brother JP was the Craven Week captain for North West and later the captain for the Valke. So despite the love for golf perhaps it never really was a choice after all. Saying that, Mostert still loves the golf course, playing off a 3 handicap and spends much of his free time chasing the tiny ball around.

SKINNY LAD
His break came when Werner de Beer, one of the Bulls scouts, asked him to come for a trial at Tuks, where Nollis Marais was coaching.

“He came from Brits and Werner said he had potential. He was a skinny lad but we let him play in a trial match against the under-21 side and immediately it showed that he had an amazing work-rate. I could see this guy would develop into a real good player,” Marais told SuperSport.

Mostert made his mark in the Varsity Cup for Tuks, scoring a try in the 2012 final by showing pace. Clayton Blommetjies took an up and under on attack and offloaded to a flying Mostert, whose try under the posts capped an exceptional win for Tuks over their old foes Maties.

“Franco was the heart and soul of that match. The speed he showed in outsprinting the Maties defence won the game for us. He was such an influential player, and always lead from the front. He was always the guy to ignite the fire. If someone had to go hard, Sous was that guy. You can always bargain on him playing 80 minutes.”

TRANSFER LIST
Strangely though, after moving up to the Bulls under-21 side, Mostert was put on the transfer list by then high-performance manager Xander Janse van Rensburg, along with several others that would go on to make their name at the Lions and beyond.

Lions coach Johan Ackermann had just taken over, and when he was scouting for players, couldn’t believe his luck when he saw Mostert’s name on the transfer list. He immediately snapped him up.

“He stood out immediately when I saw him play for Tuks,” Ackermann told Supersport.com, “He was this player that never seemed to give up. When I saw his name on the Bulls list, I told my CEO I can’t believe they’re letting this guy go.

“I realised after working with him how hungry he is to succeed and how hard work was everything to him.”

CAR ACCIDENT
But just as his career was starting at the Lions, disaster struck. Mostert was involved in a car accident and broke his hip bone. The doctor told him he may not play rugby again and his life crashed in a single moment.

“It was a bit tough for me, at the beginning of the year we played the Lions challenge and I got the weekend off and went home to North West. I got into a car accident and broke my hip. I was out for 9 months. It was tough because we were back in Super Rugby in 2014, and I had to work very hard to get back in time to play,” Mostert explains.

At first he didn’t think he was injured, but the day after the accident he couldn’t stand up. His father Francois immediately rushed him to hospital.

“The doctor told my father i had to have immediate surgery my father looked at him asked is he going to play rugby again. The doctor looked at him and said no. There were lots of tears running down my face and I believed all my dreams were running away,” he said.

The Lions coaches brought in a specialist, and transferred Mostert to Fourways hospital, where it was decided they wouldn’t operate but that he would have to lay in traction.

“I had tears of joy, especially when you think someone told you you were finished with rugby. I can’t describe what goes through your hear. I knew it would be a hard road to come back and learn to walk again. It was hard and it took me six months to sit up straight again.”

DETERMINED
When Mostert returned he ran with a limp, but slowly worked his way back into the side and never looked back. He eventually won his first Springbok cap in 2016, coming on as a reserve against Ireland in a 32-26 victory.

“One of the things that sets him apart is his drive. In 2015, I dropped him for a game and I could see he wasn’t happy. He wanted to talk to me about it but he didn’t seem to know how. When he got the chance again he made a point and proved me wrong, showed that hunger again and easily got his place back in the team,” his then-Lions coach Ackermann recalls.

“I wasn’t surprised when he became a Springbok and since then he has been indispensable to the national team.”

Another setback hit Mostert’s family when his older brother JP was heading to a bachelor party with a friend, who was driving, and had a car accident, breaking his neck and being paralysed from the waist down. Mostert took it hard and became even more determined to play his heart out, for his brother and family.


PLAYING FOR JP
“I’m playing for him now,” he told Huisgenoot in an article shortly after JP’s car accident.

“His brother’s accident had a massive effect on him,” Ackermann recalls. “The fact that JP fights as well to try and walk again, it seems that the fight is in the Mosterts’ genes. They can’t give up. France hasn’t got a scared hair on his body. Every time we were behind and got back into the changeroom, he was always the most positive guy.”

“It’s something amazing to see, to see a player so passionate about his game, and his family and how they have handled all the setbacks. To handle that and deliver consistently impressive performances says a lot about him.”

Ackermann recalls that one unique feature about Mostert, is the way he prepares for a game. While other players do individual warm-ups before a match before the team runs its lines out on the field, Mostert was always the last player to get onto the field.

“He would literally sit until a minute before the conditioning coach called the team together to run their warm-ups. I was amazed. I would see him sitting peacefully in the changeroom, doing his strapping, but I never saw him stretch. I’ve never seen players that can go out without stretching and simply play like that,” Ackermann said.

“He’s a great guy. I don’t think there is a player that doesn’t have respect for him and love for what he means for every team he plays in.”

HIGH PRAISE
This sentiment was echoed by both Marais and Ackermann’s assistant coach and later Lions coach Swys de Bruin.

“He is a hard-working guy. Everytime he plays he gives everything he has got. He is never injured. You know every week when you pick a side you pick him first. He plays for 80 minutes, he never gives up,” Marais said.

“The tougher it goes, the tougher he gets. He can soak up pressure and apply it like nobody else. He’s got quite an engine, he never stops.”

“A forward leader, a grinder. The guys respect him so much,” says his former Lions coach Swys de Bruin.

“Sous is unreal. We love him. He is so inspiring. If we have to pick characters for our movie one day, he will be one of the main characters.”

And while many others may get the limelight, you can bet there isn’t a coach whose team Mostert is in, that isn’t thankful he sets the bar so high. And has so much fight in him.

Sep 02, 2024, 23:32

What a load of shit - he is a physical liability and not even remotely skilled

Comparing him to Danie Rossouw is insulting - Danie was a big physical guy at 120kg - a physical threat

Sep 02, 2024, 23:40

" What a load of shit he is a physical liability and not even remotely skilled " - I have read some shit in my time but this pips them all

Sep 02, 2024, 23:45

Well dumbfuck show me some evidence of Mostert being physical or doing anything that remotely tells me he is a skilful player

If you can’t show me the evidence then do me a favour and shut your ignorant gob

Sep 03, 2024, 00:11

Well dumbfuck i can’t help you there, as the evidence has been shown so many times on here and on video material .

So if you haven’t gotten it by now you never will, thanks for showing your true colours again Dumbfuck.

LMAO- King of the Mampara Clan :)

Sep 03, 2024, 03:58

Mostert is not a Tight 5 player and is useless in ball protecto at breakdowns amd is useless inm ball carries in taffic.   His defesne has huge lopholes as well.   At best a weak tackler.  To many deficiencies to make him a top class player and was aound for years now and is way over the age to playin 2027.   The sooner he is replaced in the squad - the better irt would be or the team.  development in future,    

Sep 03, 2024, 07:26

Mike is Snyman fit to play.

What a shame he has been out so much. Ditto Lood and of course Willemse.

Sep 03, 2024, 22:08

Beeno 

Nobody knows - Snyman is an exceptional player - but he seems to be injury prone.

Sep 03, 2024, 22:17

Oh boy just as I thought - too fucking chicken shit to provide the evidence

Don’t fucking lie that videos have been posted on here evidencing the physicality of Mostert or any footage of something skilful he has ever done in a test match.

Making process tackles and taking line out ball is not the measure of skill or physicality you dumbfuck

Now man up and furnish me with the evidence or just do us all a favour and keep your rugby ignorant gob shut

Sep 03, 2024, 23:23

Man shut your fucking mouth…I told you, you are to stupid and Bias to see the worth of the man…

Besides you are the biggest hypocrite and fake Bok supporter that is on here…

Rassie himself is making your name so gat as he knows the value of Mostert, evidence in selecting him before the injury prone Lomp.

RG is class, but even he had to play second fiddle to Mostert. Yet again you embarrassing yourself with your so called Rugby knowledge ha ha ha :)

Back to back WC victories and Rassie starts who at 5 lock??!! None other than Mostert you simpleton….LMAO King of the Mamparas : )

Sep 04, 2024, 00:02

Provide the evidence you fucking chicken shit - talk is cheap but no shock there your fucking brain is cheap

You are as fucking thick as pigshit

Just grow a pair and provide me with some material evidence of Mostert being physical or ever showing anything skilful with ball in hand

Fuck me the useless guy has been playing for long enough there must be plenty of evidence of how physically imposing old powder puff is

Come on chicken shit - man up or shut up

Sep 04, 2024, 00:10

Mampara king says what?? Like I thought absolutely fuck ol… fuck me Dave but you are a childish joke …

Sep 04, 2024, 00:25

Stop yapping and provide the evidence

All this deflection does to equate to evidence or are you too fucking stupid to work that out

 
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