Cricket SA instructs all Proteas to take the knee

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Oct 26, 2021, 11:51

In a very serious move to illustrate their power over the players, CSA has issued a directive that ALL SA players will now take the knee "to adopt a consistent and united stance against racism by "taking the knee" prior to the start of their remaining T20 World Cup matches"

What absolute horse shit is this, that you now force people to do this....

What a fucking joke.....

Here is the article:

The Knee

Oct 26, 2021, 12:13

Quinton de Kock has told them to fuck off  and resigned from the squad.   I think that this is taking the game directly into politics and BLM in the USA are a terrorist organization - a  Democratic Party  subsidiary under Communist Leadership.   So the whole issue has been  distorted in the media  and I think De Kock - a colored  himself  - has had enough of the BS.

This is a further move to destroy cricket in  SA.   But there is nothing new about  SA cricket managing to stab itself in the back.   

    

Oct 26, 2021, 12:13

Haha fuck them!

I’d like to see what happens if the players refuse.

Oct 26, 2021, 12:38

Got to be honest here, it is quite difficult to believe that in this day and age, no player would have their own personal rights, opinions or beliefs respected...….and that you are instructed, or issued with a team directive.... to take the knee to directly support "Black Lives Matter" as quoted in the article

Wow.... what next

Oct 26, 2021, 14:26

Can't believe that QDK is the only player with enough balls to tell them to go to hell...no wonder the results are what they are...forcing someone to kneel? Mob rule is here to stay. Quinny will be "cancelled "...such a shame.

Oct 26, 2021, 14:40

". . . and I think De Kock - a colored  himself  - has had enough of the BS."


Quinton de Kock is a coloured?

Where did you hear this, ou Maaik . . . is it something Frans Malherbe's mother's hairdresser's second cousin told you?

Oct 26, 2021, 14:58

"no wonder the results are what they are...forcing someone to kneel? Mob rule is here to stay"

As I said here very recently

A few people on here are extremely quick to condemn Boucher for the current state of our cricket side.... but with this kind of backward mentality running the show from far behind the scenes...... it is no bloody wonder at all that they are in the position that they are now.

A complete and utter embarrassment, and to literally force the members of your national team to kneel to some "belief" is ludicrous in the extreme.... where will it stop

Oct 26, 2021, 15:05

I for one don't support BLM especially with a government that promote oppression of another race. On the surface it may not look like white people are oppressed but it is  just that most of them have a decent education, family and a sense of community and never believed in the government to sort out their problems. 

That said, i support QDK and I will not support the Proteas, call me unpatriotic but fuck those cunts. Our cricket is full of quotas and has brought our standard of play down over the years. Now all of sudden we don't know why the team are so poor. 

Bavuma captain?!!! AB didn't have time for this nonsense and decided to feather his bed. Don't blame the guy. 

BUT,  Radaba is proof that we can get players through on merit. 

I would ask for all players to walk away from this political nonsense, keep politics out of sport

Oct 26, 2021, 16:22

"That said, i support QDK and I will not support the Proteas"

I fully support anyone who doesn't support the Proteas because of this.... it makes a complete and utter mockery of free speech and the constitutional rights for any individual.

Sadly, some players have young families and this is their main source of income, so will most probably take the knee due to this in house pressure, but against their own personal beliefs... how incredibly sad is that.

This is fucked up on a whole other level

I still battle to believe that a national sports organization are 100% forcing everyone in the team to show allegiance to a movement like "Black Lives Matter" and even quoting that BLM organization in their press statements about taking the knee... it's not "No to Racism", they are actually quoting the BLM here...… I'm stunned.

"The Proteas have received flak for their inconsistent support of the Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement, with some players standing to attention while others take the knee"

"it was stated that the different postures taken by team members in support of the BLM initiative created an "unintended perception of disparity or lack of support for the initiative".

Say what you want, but taking the knee is directly showing your allegiance to the BLM movement as per CSA..... that is totally fucked up

Oct 26, 2021, 16:30

I fully 100% support De Kock on this 

Here is the report detailing De Kock pulling out specifically because of this directive of taking the knee

De Kock Withdraws

Oct 26, 2021, 16:35

Good on you, Quinton.

This introduction to steal a man's own identity "by comply or else" is the most despicable act of all. It's all too common every where...I like a man that gives finger to ridiculous compliance.

Trying to destroy the right to indivualism, initiative and to think independently...to live with your own conscience to what you really are.

Such people are rare today and swim against the current...others simply just go with the flow and end up going over the waterfall.

Oct 26, 2021, 16:40

As far as one can tell, CSA have well and truly overstepped their bounds.

Firstly, isn’t it illegal for employers to coerce political support and/or affiliation from its employees under threat of dismissal?

Have they done due diligence in discussing personally with each player the very personal choice they’re asking players to make?

Why have they chosen one specific group to align with? It’s clear that there are issues far more abundant, consistent and severe than racism, that affect millions of Saffas daily. Race relations, statistically and in real terms, pale in comparison to rape, murder, corruption and lawlessness in SA.

The list goes on and on but ultimately ends at human rights violation.

The problem for them is that Quintie’s dad is married to black chick and his step-bro is black. Little shit is terrible cricket…something that hasn’t stopped Quintie’s dad from getting him selected in sides way above his level.

Oh, I see quota captain failed again today haha.

Lekker BLM

Oct 26, 2021, 17:49

Quinton did the correct thing and I salute him for that.

All those other players are nothing but political hacks following a political agenda laid out by POLITICAL STOOGES and bow to political pressure for their own selfish agendas.

BLM is a terrorist organization operating in the USA and nothing more.

All lives matter including the Africans dying in Africa for political, tribal and monetary gain.

Instead of mixing politics with sport deal with the issues existing in Africa.

Yep that BLM midget and ANC appointed skipper failed once more.

ALL LIVES MATTER (ALM) should be the saying and movement if ever we us people are truly honest with ourselves.


Oct 26, 2021, 18:09

The problem is, if Quinton wants a career in cricket he will have to back track on this  ….to a position much more definitive than if he had simply gone with the program. I can’t think of anybody who has won this battle.

Oct 26, 2021, 18:37

"The problem is, if Quinton wants a career in cricket he will have to back track on this  ….to a position much more definitive than if he had simply gone with the program."

If enough players had the balls to say no, it would not have necessarily been the case...sometimes principles are more important than money.

Oct 26, 2021, 18:37

You are correct.

But no one has gone against these BLM thugs and stood their ground.

Perhaps this is a first step so lets hope it works not only for sport in general but for humanity.


Oct 26, 2021, 19:06

Mozart is crazy - must cause great happiness to him to see De Kock gone from the Proteas team of  8 years of constant attacks on him..    But then Mozart does not support anybody with principles - you won the battle anyway,         

 De Kock career in cricket does not depend on the SACB - he can with his abilities play in the IPL and other  competitions making millions out of the process in the mode of AB de Villiers.  

The fact is De Villiers quitted SA Cricket because of  the stupidity of the Cricket boar in team selection in the 2015 WC  and he realized that cricket is being destroyed  by the Board.   For him it was a matter of principle - same as De Kock now. 

        

 

Oct 26, 2021, 19:10

Principles/values are far more valuable...it's what inside a man that gives him self respect, irrespective of what others think. Everything truly valuable come from within, not from without.

Yeah, the others were gutless lemmings, bending to outside pressure. What you sow you reap.

Oct 26, 2021, 21:13

A regime that actively enforces racially driven policies and makes not a squeak in opposition to racially driven hate speech by the likes of Julius Malema forces its sports teams to display a united stand against racism. You can't make this shit up.

Oct 26, 2021, 21:19

"Taking the knee" is not taking a stand against racism...it's submitting to an ideology...handsopping...picking up the soap in the prison shower.

Oct 26, 2021, 21:26

Exactly. How weak are our so-called leaders? All coercion and threats, not a single example set to aspire to. Do as we want you to because we say so. Tiny wee Joseph Stalin wannabes.

Oct 26, 2021, 21:42

All of this began with Colin Kaepernick. Ex-quarterback of the 49ers. He is mixed race. His white mother was abandoned by his black father, and instead of doing the usual thing black mothers do, she didn't have an abortion. Instead she put him up for adoption where an upper middle class white couple gave him stability and provided for his needs and supported him to fulfil his dream of being a quarterback in the NFL. Kaepernick was given a massive contract, but was one of those next-gen read-option running QBs who couldn't play well from the pocket. One defences sussed him out, he faded. Eventually he would see out a 36mil contract sitting on his backside. It was around this time that he grew an afro that a black Denver Bronco defender told him to cut off, and he began lecturing us on privilege. His protest was to kneel for the anthem in rebellion of everything his country stood for. He is a racist Marxist. The neo-libs and media ripped his mother apart for having him adopted, and he left her to be mauled. He rejects his white heritage. This is the origin of the kneeling. It's racist and puerile and only intent on dividing people and destroying nations for personal gain. 

Oct 27, 2021, 00:20

All true, in a different better better world. But in today’s world  this is not a wise thing for a young man to do…..his team mates who never had the courage to support him won’t thank him for it.

And frankly if the team did support it, all sponsorships would be a goner and every Proteas  tour would be protested.

 Pommie Mbwanga, a pretty balanced fellow was emotionally on the side of taking the knee. People don’t see this as a cynical political movement….they see it as a manifestation of racial enlightenment.

Why fight and lose this battle again?

That said it was handled horribly by SAC. The message could have been conveyed through the coach well ahead of the game….but that wouldn’t have garnered political brownie points for the Board.

Oct 27, 2021, 00:22

Mike that’s a disgusting comment, but typical of your own thought process. You will use any occasion to score points in your pathetic attempt to ‘get me’. It reflects on you not on me.

Oct 27, 2021, 06:22

Mozart

After 8 years of attacks on De Kock what else can one assume in your case.    De Kock has never ever showed any sign of racialism  and  never said anything  of a racial nature.    He is standing for a principle of non-racism in sport and  that is the real point.   

Don't think for a comment this is going to stop  with Quinton - the campaign has been ongoing iro Smith and Boucher in the so-called Commission appointed to investigate all White players and officials  about racialism and the outcome would be a disaster for SA Cricket.   

The media has already started the attack on De Kock  on the issue.   What is really weird is that it is based on the strategy of the Democrats to make raciasm an issue in American life and is a distortion of what happened last year, in the US election and the riots and media hype of the issue in the USA and elsewhere.    Fact is the media hypes that up and is still doing it.     

BLM in fact is basically a Communist-lead subsidiary of the Democratic Party in the USA and   has been funded by the leftist  cadre  and had a serious hand in the  riots - inclusive of murder of 45 Black people in the USA last year - where the USA media hid the impact of  what really happened.   

The cricket  supporting community - largely Whites , Coloreds and Indians  will feel the effects of this politicization of cricket and is likely to lose interest in what is basically  political BS.    What did SA Cricket gain from the decision-making iro there were no real reason for taking an embarrassing decision in the middle of the WC.   

In any event  I do not think that De Kock's involvement in the IPL will be effected by this decision  of  De Kock anyway.                              

Oct 27, 2021, 06:31

"All true, in a different better better world. But in today’s world  this is not a wise thing for a young man to do…..his team mates who never had the courage to support him won’t thank him for it."

Never took you for a conformist...I hear your argument,  but forcing people to kneel for whatever cause will always be wrong...glad he stood up to CSA...hope he can persist.

Oct 27, 2021, 07:44

Lol there is quite a lot of support for Quintie on CSA’s Twitter page.

Of course the residents of Wokeanda are there too.

Oct 27, 2021, 08:04

Of course, the 2015 match fixing scandal was actually down to racist investigators…so say Alviro Petersen and Tsotsobe.

…despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary. The two are guilty as sin but these days, any time a black is guilty of something it’s because “Eish they are racist.”

Is it any wonder that their continent will forever be the worst place on earth to reside?

Nobody asks the question of why it’s always blacks involved with match fixing? Those two guys are Proteas but of course the Quintie story is so much more “relevant”.

Oct 27, 2021, 08:15

Nothing that comes from CSA surprises me anymore

Same as when Abbot was pulled at the world cup in favour of a player of colour, who had openly admitted that he was injured for that semi final game, but made him play anyway.

As was said further up, nothing gets mentioned about the daily open and blatant racism from Malema

I hope it gets and gains more attention around the world..... because forcing any players to comply to any kind of political belief is just pathetic


Oct 27, 2021, 08:21

"The two are guilty as sin"

Yep, and it's all on tape.....

I also wonder why nobody has the balls like De Kock, to stand up and say or do something whilst it is actually happening...

Meaning, these recent black players like Ntini and Prince and others who are unhappy with the way that they were apparently treated when they were playing for the Proteas, but yet they all only come out now and voice a concern, but not when they were playing and earning the good money with the endorsements...… but not one of them took an individual stand back then... like De Kock has just done here

I guess it was money over principles

They were happy to shut up and get the money then......

Oct 27, 2021, 08:33

Also, who the hell are the Windies to claim our players need "education"?

They live in paradise but turned it into a shit hole.

Hmmm common denominator?

Oct 27, 2021, 09:28

It will always be the white man's fault..... always

Just look at the amount of municipalities that went completely tits up when the ANC took over....

That is still the white man's fault.... over 25 years later

Same as Eskom.... same as SAA...…

The white man.... it's always a way out

Oct 27, 2021, 11:09

  All this bastard's doing.

Oct 27, 2021, 11:47

Must be lovely always having someone else to blame.

Question is, how stupid must one be to perpetually believe your shortcomings are someone else’s fault?

Will Africa be different in another 25 years…50 years…100 years? On current evidence, it only gets worse with each passing year.

It’ll only progress, as ever, on the back of technology developed by the evil whitey.

Oct 27, 2021, 12:01

I see these parasites are going to increase load shitting to stage 4 today.

Oct 27, 2021, 12:02


Oct 27, 2021, 12:10

The fact is a lot of people are now running for cover - suddenly it seems the instruction  was about  the West Indians game only - not all games - and  the matter is still being negotiated with De Kock,     

We will know in a few days time how far they got with this idiocy -  but I doubt whether the issue is finalized.      

Oct 27, 2021, 12:47

It was definitely not just for the West Indies game, CSA stipulated that it was for the remainder of all the T20 world cup games, because other teams were doing it.... multiple articles have quoted that.

The fact that De Kock said a big fuck you, has made them re-evaluate this whole team "directive"

"Must be lovely always having someone else to blame"

Yeah Plum, the whitey is a very bad man

I see Cyril has now promised people that the only way to resolve the current national electricity crisis, is to make sure that the ANC stays in power, so vote for them, because they are the "only" ones who can fix it for the people.

Cyril Comments

In this day and age, if you are stupid enough to believe that, you shouldn't be entitled to vote

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I see now that there are massive concerns from the current COO at Eskom regarding Koeberg

Very experienced people are resigning in droves, and a lot of them are doing it without even securing other employment..... and that should really say something.... and send a very clear warning that something is not right...… jumping ship like this is a very ominous sign

Koeberg Horrors


Oct 27, 2021, 15:09

I’m not a conformist Draad. But I am a realist. The only result of this protest will be BLM wins another one and de Kock is humiliated into back tracking. No points will be scored by his actions….none.

This reminds me of the defiant Apartheid days…..we will fight them until the last Boer falls and then Angola and capitulation.

Picking fights you can’t win just gives your putative opponent a double win. If you fight the object should be to win, not to lose gloriously.

If de Kock’s actions are seen as in any way supported by SAC or World Cricket, the sponsors are gone.

Listen to Sky News, there isn’t a peep of support for de Kock. Just talk of a former Springbok captain, the legacy of Apartheid and the failure to support the fight against racism. This was an utterly destructive thing to do with no upsides I can see. Team management really dropped the ball.

Oct 27, 2021, 16:44

You have got to draw the line somewhere...kneeling is a sign of submissive worship in some cultures. I'm surprized more people are not outraged that players are being forced to do this...the media will see this as "imbedded racism" or some other snot...which it is not...some of us don't bend the knee for anyone...this might even be a case of a religious objection without making too much of it.

Oct 27, 2021, 17:21

"You have got to draw the line somewhere"

Fully agreed

Not too long ago, there was a policeman in the USA who took the knee... just to keep the peace with some BLM supporters, but he said it was the hardest thing he ever had to do, because it went against every single thing that he ever believed in, regarding human rights, freedom of speech etc etc

When interviewed much later, this policeman said it had got so bad, that he could not sleep, because he hated the fact that he had capitulated, just to keep a group of people that he didn't even know.. happy.... so much so, that at one stage he even considered suicide because he believes he embarrassed himself by not standing up for his own personal beliefs, and he stated that he had lost his integrity by that specific single action of taking the knee and being subservient to someone or something else... and he believed he would never get his integrity back because he did not stay standing for what he truly believed in. 

He said that one single action of his, has haunted him ever since.

You do at some point have to draw a line in the sand..... sometimes the circumstances of the situation leaves you with no other choice but to.

Oct 27, 2021, 17:22

"this might even be a case of a religious objection without making too much of it."

Yep, and if it was, I wonder how CSA would react

Oct 27, 2021, 18:39

Just imagine an atheist or a Muslim is being forced to kneel before the pope or some Christian altar or something before representing their country...can you imagine the sh!tstorm.

Oct 27, 2021, 18:39

Moz makes a good point and isn’t wrong from what’s good for the individual in this particular instance.

However, as Draad says, somebody needs to draw the line somewhere as it will smooth road for others to follow and/or perhaps give people a figure to rally behind.

One thing is certain, this bullshit has to be fought against tooth and nail.

Is it a personally poor decision for Quintie? Yep.

Do we need prominent people to stand up? Yes we do.

Ultimately, one has to appreciate the sacrifice, whether Quintie knows or intends for it to be a sacrifice or not.

Oct 27, 2021, 18:45

Some people claim the right to "the only way"..."the only truth"...their way or get canceled...remember people burning heretics at the stake?...cancel culture sounds frightfully similar...

If we don't put a stop to this nonsense now, it will only get worse.

Oct 27, 2021, 19:00

Some of us only kneel to pray or to help a fallen friend...not for causes,  no matter how noble...


PS...not saying that's his cause though.

Oct 28, 2021, 07:41

Oct 28, 2021, 08:05

Time will tell, if CSA back down on this

Oct 28, 2021, 18:41

They won't...

 
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